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Interview
with DAVID, age 30 DAVID:
The first time I was with Matsuko was in New York. We were both there
on business. I used
the NEW SEX techniques with her, and she went wild, but she didn't have
a G-Spot orgasm. She said
she had a lot of worries on her mind, with her boss, and her work. So I asked
her to come to L.A. for a visit, a vacation, so her mind could be totally
free. For her
first ejaculatory orgasm I really helped to create the conditions by
bringing her to L.A. from Japan, and I think she felt really safe and
secure, while at the same time there was all this excitement because
there was all this "unknown" stuff going on. She was
able to relax because she was away from the up-tight social restrictions
and constraints of Japan, where she's from. And the
whole romantic foreign travel atmosphere made her feel very romantic
and turned on. So we're in bed in my apartment, and I've got my fingers inside her, and I start to feel those tell-tale convulsions that you talked about in the video, and she's really going wild inside, and all of a sudden she looks at me with a question in her eyes and says, "You take me
to a world I've never been before?" I just
looked at her and said, "That's where we're going. Hang on." About one
or two minutes later she started having this incredible orgasmic event. She didn't
squirt all over the place, but liquid was definitely gushing out of
her. She described
to me how she had felt when it was happening, and from what she said
and judging from what I seen and heard in the video, I knew that she
had had a G-Spot orgasm. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: What did she say when she described it? DAVID:
She said that her clitoral orgasm was "Up and then it was down." She said this was "Up, and then it's really, really intense, and it just stays there."
The
next day we drove up the coast to Santa Barbara and checked into a very
romantic beach-side hotel called the Miramar. We got to our hotel room,
and hadn't even unpacked yet, and we just wanted each other. I started
kissing her on the bed and removing pieces of her clothing. She was
really hot to begin with because she was able to experience her first
ejaculatory orgasms with my fingers inside of her just the day before. So we get
into bed, and I concentrate on licking just one square millimeter of
the tip of her nipple using just three square millimeters of the side
of my tongue. She's writhing
in ecstasy from this, and I know that she's going to be really sensitive
from this, and she's going to be really hot, and she's going to squirt,
or she's going to have a G-Spot orgasm. I tease
her pussy a little bit, and at one point I decide to stop, and she starts
jumping around on the bed. She says,
"What are you doing? I'm so hot!" "What
do you want?" She's like,
"I don't know!" And I'm
like, "Just relax and let me deal with you." She's writhing
around like a child that doesn't know what it wants. Then I
start teasing her pussy a little bit, and she's really, really wet. Then I
slide up and touch her clitoris briefly, just to pay homage to it, and
then I go inside. First with
one finger, later with two. I get to
the "spot," hold her there for a minute, and she has one or
maybe two G-Spot orgasms -- I can't tell. They all blend together. She keeps
begging me to fuck her, and I won't do it. She's shaking,
and she's moaning tremendously. The same
type of moaning as during her first G-Spot orgasm. So I know
she's there. And she
keeps begging to have sex with me. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: What was she saying?
DAVID:
"I want you. I want you. I want you, David." She gets
a little bit frustrated, and I say, "I just want to make sure that
I have this started and it'll keep on coming." Then I
told her I was concerned that if I stopped playing with her she wasn't
going to continue having that orgasm. She said,
"Just put it inside of me, please put it inside!" I did. And she
continued having her G-Spot orgasm. She just
stayed right there while I was pumping into her. I was inside
of her for about ten minutes before I started to come, and this whole
time she was experiencing orgasms in waves. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: What was it feeling like? DAVID:
To me it was feeling like the walls of her vagina were closing on me. I can tell
if a woman is having a clitoral orgasm from the movement of her outer
body or her moaning. But from
the movement of her inner body, I could tell Matsuko was having something
much more intense, and this turned me on even more than I could've expected
it to turn me on. And I just
started letting out a yell. I felt like I was coming really hard, and
she picked up on that and she grabbed me and I grabbed her and both
of us totally jammed, and we shook with the full fury and might of the
heavens. And then
I began to ejaculate, and it was even longer for me. I couldn't tell
at what point I was starting and at what point I was finishing. The whole
experience of starting and ejaculating was longer and more intense for
me too. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: And she was ejaculating all this time? DAVID:
She was having G-Spot orgasms all this time. There wasn't a puddle of
liquid at the bottom of the bed, but her ejaculation was all over us. She had
never seen this liquid before, and I had never seen this liquid before.
A little bit had come out the first time it happened to her, but there
wasn't enough to wet the bed. I asked
her what it was like? How was she able to feel it when my fingers weren't
there? And she
said, once my fingers pointed it out, she was able to locate that place
within herself and feel it every time my penis got near it, and then
she was able to feel it when I was inside of her with my dick. She had
never even had a clitoral orgasm with any guy while he was inside of
her -- only while he was playing with her -- and she still had not had
a clitoral orgasm while I was inside of her; she only had a G-Spot orgasm
while I was inside of her. She said
she was very pleased that her first orgasm with somebody inside of her
was with me. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: So this was her first simultaneous orgasm? DAVID:
I think so. And it
was absolutely my first simultaneous orgasm. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: You never had a simultaneous orgasm during sex before? DAVID:
Not a simultaneous ejaculatory orgasm. With Colette I had conventional
simultaneous orgasms all the time. In fact, I don't think we ever had
anything but simultaneous orgasms. It was a unique feature of our relationship. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: You're kind of an expert on it then. DAVID:
Well, I knew what to look for, but it wasn't as intense as this. Colette
would have it and I would have it, but the moment of intensity was a
lot shorter than what Matsuko and I experienced together in Santa Barbara. It was
certainly frequent enough with Colette, though, because we were very
aware of each other's bodies. But she never had a G-Spot orgasm while
I was with her. This was
a much longer orgasm. And Matsuko
described it to me as, "It just kept on coming and coming and coming.
It just stayed there." It kept
coming in waves for her, and she said she's never felt that way before. So the
next morning we started at it again, and she started coming immediately. This time,
it was without me using my fingers at all. She was
on top of me at the time, and she kept having it. Then she
calmed down after a while, and then I came. Later in
the morning we were both dressed and ready to check out and she started
kissing me and said, "I feel like an animal. I don't know what's
happening to me." In her sweet, demure, Japanese voice she said,
"I almost feel ashamed that I'm feeling like this." "What's
there to be ashamed about?" I asked her. "It feels good,"
and I immediately pulled all our clothes off and started making love
to her against the wall. She wrapped her legs around me and hung onto me, and I carried her onto the bed and started pumping her on the bed and she immediately went into this G-Spot trance.
NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: A G-Spot trance? DAVID:
That's how I'd describe it. She's immediately
having one of these super-powerful series of orgasms. She's not squirting,
but by this time I know that she's there because her body's vibrating
in such a way, and I can feel it on my penis, and I can smell it in
the air. It's a very subtle yet, in her case, distinct aroma. Certainly
nothing like urine, I may point out. She was
really, really hot, and we kept at it for fifteen minutes, and I started
to come, and she started to rock, and we grabbed each other. And it
was more intense this time than it was the afternoon before because
she was able to do it without any assistance from my fingers at all. She commented
on the liquid and commented about the smell, and she said, "I've
never seen this or had this before. I don't think that many women are
familiar with this smell." NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: When you were coming and she was in this "G-Spot trance,"
what was her reaction? Or was she just too far gone to say anything? DAVID:
I was there with her the whole time, and when I was about to come she
grabbed me and we shook. She shook
and I totally shook, and I think it kicked up the volume for her too
because she was turned on and I was turned on. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Awesome. Is there anything else that you'd like to say. DAVID:
It was very, very intense. This was
physically the most intense sex that I've had in my life. She also
made the comment, "This was adults making love. Kids don't know
what they're doing. It's just bang bang bang. But when adults know what
they're doing and they know how to touch each other, they drive each
other to new heights." The reason
I bring that up is because what I had previously thought to be the best
sex that I'd ever experienced (in a physical sense) didn't even compare
to this. It was the best at the time, but it didn't even hold a candle
to this. The only
thing that I could see kicking sex into a higher gear than this would
be if we had a deeper emotional attachment. But I can't even imagine
that more intense sex than this exists. This is
as good as it gets.
Interview
with CHARLOTTE, age 42 NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: When was the first time you experienced female ejaculation? CHARLOTTE:
I was probably twenty-eight years old. I was living out of the country
with somebody I'd been dating for about nine months. He was very sexual
and interested in pleasing me, and there was a lot of chemistry between
us -- I probably enjoyed sex with him more than anybody I've ever been
with. He was amazingly into sex and really good at it. Unfortunately
he was fucking everything that walked, I later found out. Probably the
only redeeming thing he ever did in our relationship was show me how
to have an orgasm. It was
early on in the relationship, we'd only been together maybe three months,
and it just happened. I don't think I'd ever had any type of orgasm
until I had sex with this particular partner. I don't think even he'd
ever experienced this type of orgasm before it happened with us. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: How did you feel about it when it happened? CHARLOTTE:
It felt great. As far as trying to understand what was happening, I
wasn't familiar with it. But he seemed to think it was great. Men seem
to really enjoy the feeling of a woman being that wet. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Did it always happen with him? CHARLOTTE:
If I wanted it to, it did. But it rarely happens if I'm using a condom
-- with whoever I'm with, because I don't enjoy it as much, the condom
irritates me. I think the whole thing about that type of orgasm is that
once you come, you come over and over and over again -- twenty or thirty
times -- and if sex is uncomfortable, you can't enjoy it so what's the
point. Often it'll
turn into just one continuous orgasm that will go for ten minutes. That
has a lot to do with my body -- if I've taken pain-killers or antihistimines,
then my body doesn't have enough fluids or something, and I kind of
know ahead of time if I'm not. I just know what state my body's in.
It's not even a sexual thing, it's more how I'm feeling physically,
more than anything. It depends
how much I really want to get into physical lovemaking. It's one thing
to just lay there -- and it's another thing to become involved. With
this kind of orgasm you have to become involved physically. There's one position where I'll almost always be assured that I'll come that way, unless I'm really dehydrated or my body's depleted. That's when I'm on top. I know where the spot is, and I can control it. Most men don't know. They don't know how to give a woman that kind of orgasm. They don't even know it's possible. I've had men absolutely shocked when it happened because there was so much liquid. They usually think you're peeing on them -- they don't know what it is.
NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Do you have what we call Conventional Orgasms as well? CHARLOTTE:
Oh yeah. Rarely with a man, though. But if the man really knows what
he's doing, the combination of the two kinds is really intense. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: How would you compare one to the other? CHARLOTTE:
Conventional clitoral orgasms are more muscle-tightening, tense, more
constricting. The other kind is more open, letting go, pushing out,
more like having a child, I guess. Conventional
orgasms are more intense in some ways because ejaculatory orgasms are
more of a realease. It's when you have the combination of the two it's
incredible. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Tell us about your experiences with NEW SEX-style simultaneous
ejaculations? CHARLOTTE:
If I've already been having one ejaculation after another and he's ready
to come, it's very easy. A clitoral orgasm when you're having regular
sex is just a tough thing to have. For me
it has to be a specific position for me to have a regular simultaneous
orgasm. But when I'm having what you call NEW SEX, there are several
positions that allow me to have them. The position that usually allows
me to have both at the same time is with the man on top, with my legs
closed. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Have you ever met any other women who have been able to ejaculate? CHARLOTTE:
No. They all look at me like I'm crazy. Some men are really turned off
by it, and some men think it's incredible. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: A lot of women describe it as having to "let go and let it flow."
CHARLOTTE:
You definitely have to let go, and women who are not into sex would
be doubtlful about experiencing it. If a woman really wants to do this
she should 1) find a partner that is totally into pleasing them, 2)
there has to be big chemistry between them for it to happen the first
time. But I wouldn't
call it "going over a wall." I think it's about perception
and knowing that it exists. Most women don't know about this. And most
men don't care enough about pleasing a woman to hang on long enough
to make it. Most men think that oral sex is what it's all about. But
for me it doesn't give me the orgasms. That plus using their hands well
can be incredible, but most men don't know where the spot is. It's inside,
in front, up at the top, but since most men don't know that it's even
possible, they really don't know what to do for it. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Can you do it alone? CHARLOTTE:
You probably could with an apparatus, but that doesn't really excite
me as much as doing it with someone. If I want to masturbate just for
relief, I'll get the vibrator out and have a clitoral orgasm in three
seconds as a tension reliever. But I don't enjoy having sex with myself.
I'd rather be with somebody. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: What's the best piece of advice you could give a woman who
wanted to learn how to do this? CHARLOTTE:
Find someone who cares about pleasing you and wants to spend time experimenting
with you, and just let go. And have a lot of towels around. I think
I've actually filled a .33 liter Perrier bottle. My boyfriend and I
were so astounded by the amount of fluid that we set out to see how
much there was! NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Compare and contrast "simultaneous orgasms" and
"simultaneous ejaculations." It's great
when you come together because it's more of an emotional experience.
It's even more intense when you ejaculate simultaneously. The other
bad thing about a condom is that the man doesn't feel the ejaculation
happening as intensely as if he didn't have the rubber on. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Do you have any final words to the women of America and the
world? CHARLOTTE:
I think women are really out of touch with their bodies because of all
the prudish influences of society over the years. A lot of women don't
really believe that they should enjoy sex. And a lot of men don't really
believe that women should enjoy sex. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Do you think that women should enjoy sex? CHARLOTTE:
Abso-fucking-lutely. Probably
the most intense way to bring a woman to orgasm is by giving her head
and using their fingers on the G-Spot at the same time. That and the
position where the man is on top with the woman's legs closed -- but
he has to pull out far enough to allow the fluid to come out. Not pulling
out all the way, but to the tip, long strokes. You gotta get that rhythm
down! I think the thing that turns women on the most is knowing that the men really want them to enjoy themselves. The man will enjoy the sex more if he focusses on the woman and makes her feel like she's the center of the whole thing, because it will open the woman up.
Interview
with CHUCK, age 31 CHUCK:
I met this girl in the streets of Havana. I was driving in a taxi with
my friend Steel, his girlfriend Marlena, another girl, and our two touts,
(touts are like Guy Fridays.) I saw this girl I thought was really hot,
we stopped the taxi, got out, and I walked up to her. We got in a conversation
and said "Why don't we go to a bar?" We went to a bar which
was close by. We got
to the bar and sat down, we had Chohitos and beer and some Havana Libres,
and talked a little bit, then we decided "Let's go to a disco and
go dancing." So we went
to this disco in Havana called Johnny's. A big crazy disco. Comedy show,
variety show. All during the drive to the disco she's rubbing my leg,
she's telling me "You guys are so cool, I'm so glad we met you
this evening." We get
there, we watch the show, she starts rubbing my leg, kissing my neck,
making out with me. We drink all night, champagne, Cuba Libres, Chohitos,
beer. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: What's a Chohito? CHUCK:
Chohitos are a drink of a little bit of rum -- very little -- mint,
sugar cane juice, and seltzer. It's a really good drink, mild and cool
and very refreshing. We leave
and we go to our hotel, we pop champagne, we're drinking, we're talking,
we're making jokes, everybody's laughing, we're all toasting Steel's
31st birthday, and we decide we're going into the bedrooms. So we let
the touts go, we give them $70 and tell them "go get yourself some
whores." We get
in my room, we're making out, I'm erect, everything is going great.
She goes down on me, she's blowing me, I'm erect, I'm fantastic, everything's
great until we start to fuck. First of
all, I put the condom on, and a condom always gets me a little bit less
erect when I put it on. I start fucking; I'm fucking, I'm fucking; and
my dick starts to break while I'm fucking. It's just not hard enough. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Your dick starts to break? CHUCK:
It's not really hard, so it doesn't go in smooth and straight. It's
twisting off to the side as I'm thrusting. I'm like Fuck! You see, before
we met them, I'd just fucked this eighteen year-old, and she was fantastic
-- I mean, she made me come in like no time. This girl, if she was in
New York, would be a fashion model if it wasn't for the little bit of
acne she had on her cheeks. Aside from that she was model material all
the way. This was a blonde haired, blue eyed, 5'10", 125 lbs.,
C-cup, poppin' bubble-assed girl. Just insane. Like out of a magazine.
She made me come in fifteen minutes. And it takes a lot to get me to
come. So my erection
is fading, the girl felt really bad, she's like "What is it? Is
it me? I don't know what's going on?" and I'm like "It's not
you, it's the champagne. Champagne always does this to me. I don't know
what to tell you other than the fact that we drank a lot of champagne,
I'm drunk, and I can't keep an erection right now." I was laughing
at myself all during this time. I started to crack up, I started to
make jokes about myself, and it made it a little easier on her that
I was doing that. It made it easier on me too, because it was definitely
a psychological thing for me. I said
"You know what? I just thought of something!" What I thought
of was Viagra. I immediately
took the pill. I know it takes an hour for Viagra to work. I'd taken
it the night before, but I'd taken half a hit instead of a whole hit.
Half a pill is a whole hit. I took a whole pill that night. But I knew
it took an hour the last time to take effect, and with half a hit I
got an erection for no reason whatsoever, but I'd been talking with
the girl I was with so by the time I started fucking that erection had
already gone. So after taking the whole pill I figured I had an hour
to kill. So I immediately
started doing the New Sex™ techniques on her. This soon took her
into a state of total ecstasy. She would arch her back, she rolled her
shoulders, she was constantly moving her hips in a very obvious manner,
and she was obviously having the time of her life. She came. The first time she came it wasn't a rock-the-world come. I knew she came; she was shuddering, she arched her back, and her hips kept thrusting in an uncontrollable way. It was very impressive, but it wasn't like what happened later. But at that point I knew if I could really get her going and move my hand fast, like a real power-fuck, I could keep her at the state of exstasy.
So I tried
it, but it didn't work. She actually came down out of the orgasm and
kind of relaxed a little bit more. Then we made out a little bit. I
actually took my hand out of her for a few seconds, rubbed her, and
rubbed her come onto her nipples. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Was there a big puddle? CHUCK:
No, not at that point. She was very wet, but there was no ejaculation.
So then I rubbed it on her nipples and I licked it off her nipples.
She had these incredible firm breasts; they were insane. Then I went
back to stimulating her G-Spot the way you describe in the video. I would
say the first come took about thirty minutes. It took a while, but I
got her to come. The second come took about ten or fifteen minutes,
doing the same type of all-over body-rub, kissing, tongueing her belly-button,
licking her stomach, kissing down to her vagina -- but never licking
her vagina, because I didn't do that while I was there -- just trying
to make an over-all body experience for her while I was making love
to her with my hand. She came
again. This time there was a little ejaculation. A little spray hit
my hand. I don't know if this girl was really capable of doing huge
flying ejaculations, but you could definitely sense that she came because
it came down my wrist. And again, it was the same type of experience:
arched back, hips moving uncontrollably -- and I tried to keep it going,
but it didn't work again. But then
I just said to myself, I'm gonna do this until my arm cramps. I kept going, and about ten minutes later she had an orgasm. I said to myself I'm gonna do a power-fuck movement with my middle finger until I can't do it anymore, because I'm gonna try and keep her going. I kept it going for about ten minutes. I kept moving my hand back and forth, in and out really fast with the tip of my finger rubbing the G-Spot. Her back
did not un-arch for ten minutes. Her whole body was in like a spasm
for ten minutes. She came like a water-fall. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Like a water-fall? CHUCK:
At one point it just released, and like a shot-glass of liquid came
out of her. It didn't shoot out far, it just kind of came out. After that
she was like "I want you in me, I want you in me!" Then I
started fucking her with my dick. I had been hard the whole time --
from the second come on, I was hard. I stayed
hard for about four hours, because of the pill. And it was hard in the
morning again. At that point I started fucking her with deep thrusts. Not with my hips positioned to rub her clitoris, but positioned so that the head of my cock would rub her G-Spot. So it was a deep upward thrust of the penis. She came again in about ten minutes. Then she came again in about twenty-five to thirty minutes. Then she came again really, really hard about thirty to forty-five minutes later. She came in a shuddering, grabbing me, scratching my back, thrashing type of come. Not knowing how to control her own body. Total spasms.
NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Did she ejaculate anymore? CHUCK:
Not that I noticed. To tell you the truth, I was too enthralled with
the whole experience. The drug got me so fucking crazy that I didn't
know what to do with myself. And her -- I mean, when they come like
that on you, it drives you nuts even more. So between the two I didn't
know what to do with myself. I was holding
myself back as long as I could. I wanted her to have one come which
was like a really long, powerful orgasm, then I'd get on top of her
knowing that when I'd be fucking her she'd come really hard because
she'd already come like Mount Everest -- so I knew that when I'd be
fucking her she'd come again -- maybe not like Mount Everest, but maybe
like Mount Sinai. That's the way I approached it. It was fantastic. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Did you two have a simultaneous orgasm? CHUCK:
No. It was very hard for me to come. Once I hold back my orgasm -- which
I do very often -- it's very hard for me to come. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: What would you say the impact of using the NEW SEX techniques
during this experience? CHUCK:
I think it gives a type of long orgasm that otherwise wouldn't have
been experienced. I don't think you can do it with your dick. You can't
thrust your hips that way. You can use your hands more, and you're more
dextrous with your hands, so it's much easier to achieve and sustain
that type of orgasm with your hand then it is with your cock. With your
cock you tire your whole body out because it's more of an overall body
experience to fuck. As it was, I totally tired my whole body out. NEW SEX
INSTITUTE: Did she say anything to you about the experience for her? CHUCK:
She said she'd never experienced anything like that. Even before I got
in her she said "I never -- ahhh, ahhh -- nothing like this ever
before!"
*****
NEW SEX INSTITUTE: How long have you been a gynecologist? MARSHA: Nine years. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: In your practice, have you ever encountered women who have brought up the issue of female ejaculation with you? MARSHA: No. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: Never? MARSHA: In those words, absolutely not. They will bring up orgasm, they will say it's "just not doing it" for them, they'll talk about how they don't climax, or they have trouble orgasming, but they've never discussed ejaculation, liquid -- nothing to that extent, whatsoever. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: How about in your studies? I presume that you have a thorough education in the anatomy and physiology and sexual and reproductive organs of the female body. Have your studies ever mentioned or gone into the phenomenon of female ejaculation, simultaneous ejaculation, or the G-Spot? MARSHA: No. The only thing that's discussed -- in terms of fluid -- at all, is Vaginal Lubrication and where that lubrication comes from; what glands, etc. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: What about informally? Have you ever encountered the issue amongst your friends or acquaintances outside of the medical field? MARSHA: No. Most of the time if they're talking about liquid of any sort they're talking about the excitement phase and "how wet" they're getting, or that a guy made them really excited -- that kind of thing. Never what you're describing as an ejaculation accompanied by orgasm. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: Have you ever personally experienced the phenomenon? MARSHA: Not that I'm aware of -- so I guess the answer has to be No. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: Then NEW SEX NOW was your first exposure to the subject? MARSHA: I'd have to say Yes. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: Why is this such a mystery? There was a book called The G-Spot published many years ago. MARSHA: I know that book exists, but I have not read it. I think there a lot of females -- myself included -- and other professionals -- a group of women, regardless of what their fields are -- that understand that it's not necessarily clitoral stimulation that does it for everybody; and everyone's body is different; some people like one thing and some people like another; and yes there is a G-Spot, or other areas within their body, that will get them to a higher level, a better orgasm, or whatever you want to call it -- but I've never heard it described specifically the way you are describing and demonstrating in your NEW SEX NOW program. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: Please tell us about your studies on the subject of human sexuality. MARSHA: Just what's taught in your basic Med School program. I was in a 7-year B.S.-M.D. program, so my sexuality studies consisted of classes that came along with studies of a little bit of anatomy and a little bit of physiology. In medical school they're two distinctly different courses, not even always given in the same semester. You learn the actual anatomy in one class, and you learn physiology as you do that end of the body -- whether it's related to Urology (because the whole kidney-urinary system is interlinked) or you were actually learning about the genitals. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: None of those classes mentioned anything about this? MARSHA: Absolutely not. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: Where did you go to Medical School? MARSHA: Part of it was City College in New York, and part of it was at New York State University in Bufalo. Real main-stream places. Nothing really obscure or foreign. I think I received a very excellent quality education at the City and State level, one that was certainly comparable to any private school in the U.S. It wasn't like I was in Guadlajara where you'd be thinking "No wonder they didn't teach that stuff." NEW SEX INSTITUTE: Is it interesting to you that this was overlooked? MARSHA: It seems sad that it was overlooked. Let's put it this way: gynecologists are all trained that you're supposed to ask "Is your relationship okay?" or "Is sex satisfying" or "Is sex okay?" or however it is you learn to ask. But certainly for the people who answer "No it's not," you'd like to think you could help them probably more than we can. I think a lot of us do real well considering what little formal training we receive. A lot of patients tell us there's a problem, and to be honest, it's frequently a medical problem or a problem in the relationship on a social level. The husband's drinking, or he's a jerk, or whatever. Or it's a real physical issue -- she has stress incontinence, or something else is going on, or she's not lubricating, or she was raped as a kid -- there are underlying issues that we can address and help them get past it. But there are very few women who actually say they have a problem and then admit that they just can't "come," excuse the expression. You will hear that they're dry, you will hear that it hurts, but very few people -- and it's usually during the peri-menopausal period -- who say "I just can't orgasm anymore," or "I'm having trouble reaching orgasm," or "My husband really wants to and I just don't feel like it anymore." But those are usually either an estrogen or progesterone defficiency part of their going through menopause, so when you explain to them what's going on and supplant the hormone back, they're better again. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: Do they educate you as far as the use of the clitoris or the function of the clitoris in female sexuality? MARSHA: You're certainly taught that it's the area that has the most number of nerve endings per square inch in your body. You're taught that the vast number of women need clitoral stimulation to achieve orgasm. Definitely, those two facts are taught. By the time you're done studying that aspect of anatomy, even if you've never had sex before, you understand that's the place you want to get hit. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: How many patients have you had during your nine years of practice?MARSHA: I see patients on an average of 4 days a week, and I see an average of 20 - 25 patients a day, so I figure I see a hundred patients a week, and I work at least 45 weeks a year, so that's 4500 per year. To be conservative, let's say 4000 a year for nine years, so I've examined easily 36,000 women. NEW SEX INSTITUTE: 36,000 women have not reported this occurrence to you? MARSHA: Fair enough -- because that would include all the patients I saw during my residency and medical school.
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